I don't believe that this case has to concern itself with homosexuality vs. freedom of religion. The more basic principle is - can you be legally forced to create a design, a work of art, that you do not want to create?
Your argument is a sophism because it starts from a false premise. The baker did not tell the gays that the design is not available. If this was the case then you would be right. His actual wording was that he's not making the cake because he's against gay marriage. To make an analogy: if a drunken homosexual couple comes in a store, the store owner could tell them "we don't serve drunken people" or "we don't serve homosexuals". The former is legal, the latter is not. Anyway, the whole "civil rights" thing is illogical because you can not say that it is illegal to discriminate by race or sex and then you allow discrimination against men and white people. "Civil rights" should be renamed "the rights of women, homosexuals and coloured people"
I used to work in the museum industry. A creationist museum said they liked the quality of my work and asked me to sculpt dinosaurs for their exhibits. I certainly could have used the income but I declined on principle because I don't agree with their philosophy. Should they be allowed to sue me?
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The constitution was a prohibition of Federal Powers, it was never intended to govern the interactions of private citizens nor the actions of individual states.
A baker of cakes isn't an arm of the United States Congress!
There was a time years ago in the U.S. you would hear folks say, "It's a free country."
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Your argument is a sophism because it starts from a false premise. The baker did not tell the gays that the design is not available. If this was the case then you would be right. His actual wording was that he's not making the cake because he's against gay marriage. To make an analogy: if a drunken homosexual couple comes in a store, the store owner could tell them "we don't serve drunken people" or "we don't serve homosexuals". The former is legal, the latter is not.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, the whole "civil rights" thing is illogical because you can not say that it is illegal to discriminate by race or sex and then you allow discrimination against men and white people. "Civil rights" should be renamed "the rights of women, homosexuals and coloured people"
I used to work in the museum industry. A creationist museum said they liked the quality of my work and asked me to sculpt dinosaurs for their exhibits. I certainly could have used the income but I declined on principle because I don't agree with their philosophy. Should they be allowed to sue me?
ReplyDeleteIn a free country, confectioners should not be forced to pack anyone's fudge
ReplyDeleteIt amnt a free country no mo' my nigger.
ReplyDeleteCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
ReplyDeleteThe constitution was a prohibition of Federal Powers, it was never intended to govern the interactions of private citizens nor the actions of individual states.
A baker of cakes isn't an arm of the United States Congress!
Thanks to Lincoln we have a schizophrenic constitution. We're all sitting around talking about cakes.....
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